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Mark
Posted on Tuesday, June 27, 2006 - 3:10 pm:   

Well my 3 year project T-20 is up and running. Once again I am in need of advice. I installed some rear sets and the bike is very hard to shift. They are really nice and have a very smooth motion, no binding. The motor was a complete tear down and mod job and I am sure that everthing is where it should be. The bike was albe to shift through all gears easlily before using the old set up. I have spoke with another who has run into the same problem. So the question I have is what are you guys using on the Shifter Shaft. I am thinking that mine is just too short and this is causing the problems. Since you are the racer guys and rear sets are a must what are you using? And how does it work? Pictures would be a big help.

Mark
Adrian
Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 7:28 pm:   

Have you rebuilt the engine since fitting the rearsets? If you haven't tried the engine after a rebuild without the rearsets, then the rearsets may not be the problem!
Put an original lever on and take it for a spin - how is it now?

Have you replaced the clutch gasket with a 'home-made' one? The width of this gasket is critical and without it the change shaft binds on the clutch casing, causing the symptoms you describe.

I have seen many different kinds of rearsets... but I went for the easiest option - I shortened an original gear lever and turned it round to face backwards! This reversed the gearchange direction to the correct way for racing, and also avoided all the slop and play you can get in a linkage. It was also cheap and easy to do.

I'll search for some pics of other bikes' arrangements and will post them if I can find any.
Mark
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:51 am:   

Thanks Adrian. I will take a look. I did make my own Clutch Gasket, after the mods and rebuild, but I used a slightly thicker gasket. I will check for binding. This is one that I did not think of. I would assume that the Gear Shifter Rod that goes through the gear case will have slight play. Correct! If it does not then this will be the problem. As for putting the old one back on I cut it to make a short arm for the rear sets.

If you have any pictures of a link set-up it will help.

I will look into it this weekend. The bike is at the shop for tuning right now. It will also be put on a dyno machine to see what kind of HP it is putting out after all of the work.

Mark
Adrian
Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 6:36 pm:   

Yes, your gear shaft should have a little play on it. I suspect your gasket is causing the problem.

Keep us posted.
Ron Kalanquin
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 3:06 am:   

Adrian I am a T-20 racer here in the USA. I have T-20 ridig frame dirt tracker that I'd like to sent you a picture of plus photo's of my T-20 road racer. Did 102 mph at daytona this year w a stiff head win. could you give me your e-mail so I could forward you these pictures. Plus I run 32mm Mikunki's on my bike and I am curious as to what mixing tubes you use w the Goulott 34mm set up?
Mark
Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 2:25 pm:   

Hey Ron this is Mark and I am here in the States. I would love to see the pictures too. If you e-mail out a set to Adrian I would love a set too. Then that brings up another question. Once I know what the HP of my motor is can you guys of infinite wisdom advise of a good set of sprokets for the street. My bike is still at the tuners and they are also installing new mixing tubes.
Adrian
Posted on Monday, July 10, 2006 - 9:59 am:   

Ron - my email address is webmaster @ t20suzuki.com (without the spaces!)

I'll check my carb settings for you.
Adrian

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